Occupy Los Angeles Plans To Stay At City Hall, Ignore City Deadline To Vacate

By ANDREW DALTON, Associated Press

LOS ANGELES — Despite a fast-approaching deadline set by the mayor and police chief, very few of the anti-Wall Street protesters from Occupy Los Angeles had begun breaking down their tents Saturday on the City Hall lawn – and most said they didn’t intend to.

The Occupy LA encampment was abuzz with activity, but nearly all of it was aimed at how to deal with authorities come Monday’s 12:01 a.m. deadline.

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Some handed out signs mocked up to look like the city’s notices to vacate, advertising a Monday morning “eviction block party.”

Dozens attended a teach-in on resistance tactics, including how stay safe in the face of rubber bullets, tear gas canisters and pepper spray.

Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa announced Friday that despite his sympathy for the protesters’ cause, it was time for the camp of nearly 500 tents to leave for the sake of public health and safety.

The mayor said the movement is at a “crossroads,” and it must “move from holding a particular patch of park to spreading the message of economic justice.”

But occupiers did not intend to give up their patch of park too easily.

Will Picard, who sat Saturday in a tent amid his artwork with a “notice of eviction” sign posted outside, said the main organizers and most occupiers he knows intend to stay.

“Their plan is to resist the closure of this encampment and if that means getting arrested so be it,” Picard said. “I think they just want to make the police tear it down rather than tear it down themselves.”

But some agreed with the mayor that the protest had run its course.

“I’m going,” said Luke Hagerman, who sat looking sad and resigned in the tent he’s stayed in for a month. “I wish we could have got more done.”

Villaraigosa expressed pride that Los Angeles has lacked the tension, confrontation and violence seen at similar protests in other cities. But that peace was likely to get its biggest test on Monday.

Police gave few specifics about what tactics they would use for those who had no intention of leaving.

Chief Charlie Beck said at Friday’s news conference that officers would definitely not be sweeping through the camp and arresting everyone just after midnight.

But in an interview with the Los Angeles Times on Sunday, Beck said that despite the lack of confrontations in the camp’s two-month run, he was realistic about what must happen.

“I have no illusions that everybody is going to leave,” Beck said in an interview with the Times. “We anticipate that we will have to make arrests.”

But he added, “We certainly will not be the first ones to apply force.”

Ue Daniels, 21, said as an artist he’s “as nonviolent as they come” but he planned on resisting removal any way he could.

“I think we’ll comply as far as putting our tents on the sidewalk maybe, that’s something that’s been going around.”

But as far as leaving altogether?

“They would probably have to drag me away,” he said.

He also suspected that though the general consensus among campers is to stay, he expects many will change their mind once police arrive. “I don’t know who’s going to stay, you can say something, but you never know until you’re in the situation how you’re going to react.”

The legendary Beat Generation-era poet and City Lights Bookstore founder Lawrence Ferlinghetti wrote a poem about the Occupy movement, which he performed in San Francisco earlier this week.

Full text below:

The first fine dawn of life on earth
The first cry of man in the first light
The first firefly flickering at night …
The first wagon train westward
The first sighting of the Pacific by Lewis and Clark
The first desegregation by Huck and Jim on a raft at night
The first buffalo head nickel and the last buffalo
The first skyscraper in America
The first home run at Yankee Stadium
The first ball park hotdog with mustard
The last bohemian in a beret
The last homespun politician and the first stolen election
The first plane to hit the first twin tower
The birth of vast national paranoia
The birth of American corporate fascism
The next to last free speech radio
The next to last independent newspaper raising hell
The next to last independent bookstore with a mind of its own
The next to last leftie looking for Obama nirvana

The first day of the Wall Street occupation to set forth upon this land a new revolutionary nation!

Sahara Reporters reports:

A coalition of Civil Society in Abuja said that it would begin a mass protest come January 2012 tagged (Occupy Nigeria) over the controversial fuel subsidy removal.

This revelation was made today by the National Convener of the group ,Jaye Gaskia, at a press briefing. Gaskia said that the group would mobilize all Nigerian and other organized bodies for permanent street protest which would cut across the country if Government go a finally go ahead with the removal of the fuel subsidy.

Read the full story and Occupy Nigeria press release here.

The author records her visit via Occupy Writers:

When I went looking for Occupy Johnson City, Tennessee, the spiky profile of pickets and placards struck my eye first, and then the people underneath them, but it did not look like a global uprising per se, just an orderly crowd in a parking lot. But a crowd, there’s a sight, in a town where people mostly drive-thru or drive on. I saw some American flags and a sign that said “God Hates Banks” and figured this had to be it. From across the street I heard one person say a few words at a time, repeated by the crowd in the unmistakable “from this day forward…” cadence of a wedding or a swearing-in, and again I wasn’t sure I was in the right place. As it turned out, the call and response was the people’s microphone, famously re-invented in New York to subvert the ban on amplifiers. Here in Tennessee it sounds like people taking vows. Repeat as one: men in UMW jackets, farmers in their town clothes, college kids, retired schoolteachers, young couples pushing strollers, the wilderness guide in a kilt, the homeless man with the sign in Latin. Really the temptation was to ask any given person, what is the story? Because there is one. This is Appalachia, home of the forested Cumberland and Wildwood Flower and NASCAR and 18% unemployment and bless your heart.

To read the rest of her essay, go here.


@ allisonkilkenny :
RT @CaptainShar: I just got out of LAPD Van Nuys jail after being arrested and detained for about 22 hours at #OccupyLA.

HuffPost’s Tyler Kingkade reports:

WASHINGTON — Faculty in the University of California system said this week that the group appointed to lead an investigation into the controversial pepper-spraying incident on the UC Davis campus is far from independent.

On Nov. 18, student protesters at UC Davis werepepper-sprayed at close range by campus police while demonstrating against tuition hikes. Footage of the event went viral and the police chief and two officers involved have since been put on leave. In response to the controversial actions, UC Davis Chancellor Linda Katehi called for an independent investigation.

“Multiple investigations and reviews are underway to learn why police — despite my explicit instructions that no force be used in removing tents and other equipment from the area — elected to employ pepper spray. But let me again be clear: it was absolutely wrong and unnecessary,” Katehi said in a message sent to students on Nov. 23.

But in an open letter, Robert Meister, head of the Council of UC Faculty Associations, called for University of California president Mark Yudof to swap out Kroll Security Group and its chairman William Bratton as the ones in charge of the investigation.

Read the whole thing here.

L.A. sanitation officials are expecting to remove 30 tons of debris from the Occupy L.A. encampment following the massive Tuesday night raids which left over 200 occupiers arrested.

The Los Angeles Times reports:

Andrea Alarcon, president of the city Public Works board, said workers already have removed 25 tons of belongings from the City Hall park, all of it heading straight to a landfill.

Sanitation crews also have vacuumed up about 3,000 gallons of water that had washed into a catch basin in recent days and are testing it for hazardous materials, she said.

Norman Schwartz, 76, a retired attorney from Calabasas, felt differently. He stopped by Wednesday afternoon to snap photos and suggested that the Occupy L.A. scene was a great lesson in democracy. He said he was sad to see the park so empty.

“There was no longer this wonderful thing going on,” he said. “It was just an empty, dirty park.”

Read the full story here.

The San Francisco Examiner reports that the city’s Occupy protesters, who have been camping at Justin Herman Plaza for nearly two months, have been told to pack up and leave by noon today:

During a meeting Wednesday with representatives of the camp, Department of Public Works Director Mohammed Nuru gave them the news.

“I have to tell you that time is short, and we don’t want tents on this property as of noon tomorrow,” Nuru said.

But after Nuru issued his ultimatum, some campers seemed to be digging in their heels and preparing for to be forcibly removed, which many feel is imminent.

Read more here.

The Washington Times reports:

Early in October, staffers from the Smithsonian Institution’s National Museum of American History went through the Occupy Wall Street encampment in New York’s Zucotti Park collecting hand-made posters and other material to build up a record of the embryonic movement in case the protesters end up in the history books — and not just in jail for unlawful assembly and messing up public spaces.

As the Occupy protest widened to other cities, so did the museum’s search. But museum officials declined to go into detail about what was being collected and from where

The big-time small town of Forks, Washington, home to the characters of the ever popular teen phenomenon Twilight, is one of the latest cities boasting an occupation in solidarity with the Occupy Wall Street movement.

The Peninsula Daily News reports:

FORKS — Seventeen people “occupied” Forks over the weekend, standing in front of the Bank of America branch Saturday in pouring rain.

“We got a lot of thumbs up and honking,” said Occupy Forks organizer Patt Doyle.

“We only got one finger, and one thumbs down.

Doyle and friend Linda Middleton organized the Occupy Forks protest in support of the national movement of the “99 percent” — purportedly the regular working population — in protest of corporate influence on the U.S. government.

The location was selected because Bank of America has the only large corporate presence in Forks, she said.

The branch will close in January as part of a wave of corporate service center closures across the U.S.

Read the full story here.

Despite a memo circulating through the New York Police Department telling officers to stop blocking press access to covering the Occupy Wall Street protests, reports emerge this morning that a number of journalists were stopped from covering an OWS protest outside a high-dollar Obama fundraiser.

Capital New York reports:

Reporters told Capital last night that New York Police Department officers turned them away when they tried to report on an Occupy Wall Street protest outside of a Midtown fund-raiser for President Barack Obama, despite a memo the police commissioner sent to the rank and file last week reminding officers of standard procedure for allowing journalists to cross police lines.

Meg Robertson, who works for MSNBC, said unreasonable interference is exactly what she found when she sought to cover the protest near the corner of 53rd Street and 7th Avenue, where demonstrators had been corraled into a “free-speech zone,” demarcated by police barricades, near the Obama event.

“I identified myself to a number of NYPD as a member of the press and they would not let me close to the penned in area,” she wrote to Capital in an email account of the events last night.

Gothamist reports another journalist, Andrew Katz, said “One officer actually said I could go into the kettle where the protesters were, but [another] officer grabbed my arm, and then [Harkinson], and said we had to leave the area. Three officers, including a female officer who gripped her arm around my hip, escorted us a block down to 52nd Street behind a set of barricades.”

At least 100 protesters had marched to the hotel President Obama was speaking at for $1,000 a head.

In a memo last month NYPD Commissioner Ray Kelly sent a memo that read in part “Supervisors may restrict access to an incident scene only in those exceptional circumstances where it is absolutely necessary for law enforcement or public order purposes.”

According to Gothamist, when NYPD spokesman Paul Browne was asked why reporters were prevented from covering a demonstration last night, he issued a two word response to Capital New York: “Not so.”

From the steps of the court house, where a judge will decide if their encampment is protected under the 1st Amendment, Occupy Boston released this statement:

For two months, Occupy Boston has been encamped in Dewey Square, across the street from the Boston branch of the Federal Reserve. Today, we are at Suffolk Superior Court to defend our right to that encampment. The Commonwealth is concerned with the character of our speech, but our words and actions cannot be understood separate from the extraordinary circumstances which summon them. The former are a matter of interpretation, the latter are not.

It is not a question if, in the aftermath of the financial crisis, the Federal Reserve provided trillions of low-cost loans to giant, insolvent financial institutions and then hid this information from our elected representatives. It is not up for debate that these same institutions proceeded to lie, openly and consistently to their shareholders, to Congress, and to the American people, about the extent of their failure while the Fed actively lobbied for a further taxpayer investment on their behalf. It is not a matter of interpretation that members of Congress charged with regulating these organizations were knowingly denied access to a full understanding of their perfidy and the willingness of Federal Reserve to underwrite it.

What is a question is how many families would have kept their homes had they been able to borrow at rates as low as those lavished on banks in secret. It is unknown how many jobs would have been saved had small businesses been allowed to sell seven hundred billion dollars of bad decisions back to the American government. It is unclear how many of the lives irrevocably damaged by our devastated economy would have fared better had they received the same consideration as the desire for JPMorgan, Bank of America, Citigroup, Wells Fargo, and Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley to pay their employees no less after the bailouts than they did beforehand.

There has been much concern over the refusal of the occupation to state clearly the nature of its political ideology. We offer that a sober assessment of the current situation explains this silence. One does not have to be a Republican to be outraged at the pointed destruction of the competitive market by the Federal Reserve. Just as one does not have to be a Democrat to be disgusted by the 51 cases in the past 15 years in which 19 Wall Street firms repeatedly violated antifraud laws they had agreed, also repeatedly, never to breach. Indeed, one need not even be an American to be roused to the defense of democracy against the systematic collusion of high-finance and those who we pay to regulate it. No political identity is necessary when the reality is unacceptable by any standard.

But here in Boston we are Americans, raised over a lifetime to revere the principle that government derives its authority not from the largest corporations or the wealthiest individuals, but from the consent of the governed. And that any government that maintains its authority otherwise cannot be called just. The occupation of Dewey Square is an attempt, however imperfect, to once again locate a government of the people, by the people and for the people at the center of those corporations and institutions that have profited by its larger destruction. Our encampment is the only means to this end.

Fifty-six years ago today, a forty-two year old woman named Rosa Parks was arrested for refusing to surrender her seat to a man born a different color than herself. She knew the law and broke it willingly, because she knew that she was right and that the law was wrong. But the movement that inspired her did not only seek the repeal of this law, of that prohibition, but the end of an entire culture of injustice. A culture that decreed, against all human reason and sympathy, that certain people were innately more deserving than others. This struggle continues.

Today the banks justify their salvation by the American taxpayer by claiming that they too, are better than others, and that to hold them accountable would amount to punishing success. We now know how craven a lie this is. They are not better, merely better connected; they are not more efficient, just more deceitful, and their size only signifies the scope of their greed. At Occupy Boston, we have endeavored to create a community that does not recognize position, deceit and greed as the measure of success. We have attempted to prioritize human needs – food, clothing, shelter, the freedom of speech and assembly – so as to highlight their betrayal by those working around us.

Many people have expressed support for these goals, including the Mayor, who has repeatedly said that he understands our cause. We wonder: if he so understands, why he has not opened an investigation into what goes on inside the tall buildings that surround our little camp? When Bank of America was defrauding schools, hospitals, and dozens of state and local governments via illegal activities involving municipal bond sales, did he send the police to remove them? Does he believe that their crimes were less damaging to the health and welfare of the public than our winterized tents?

The General Assembly has approved $12,000 for the purchase of these safer, warmer tents, along with a detailed plan for assuring the safety of all occupiers through the winter. A shipment of these tents was recently seized as contraband by the Boston Police Department. Despite complaining avidly to the press about threats to public safety, the City has not sent any notices to our PO Box, posted any communications on our message boards, or appeared at our General Assemblies to relay those concerns to us. These are facts.

Yesterday, the Federal Reserve announced it was reducing the price of borrowing dollars in foreign countries. This is once again a response to a crisis provoked by irresponsible behavior on the part of the banks and their allies in governments throughout the industrialized world. In Greece, democracy itself has been suspended to better ensure the servicing of international finance. The occupation in Boston, like others around the world, is a response to these threats to our democracy, and it will continue so long as they do.

We are the 99 percent, and we are no longer silent.

From Santa Cruz Patch:

Occupy Santa Cruz took over the empty Coast Commercial Bank building at Water and River Streets around 3 p.m. Wednesday, because they say the building was being held hostage by Wells Fargo.

“Capitalism has taught us that no one is ever going to give us anything,” said OSC spokesperson Mark Paschal. “You have to take it.”

Paschal, a graduate student whose major is “a century of crisis in education,” says the building was serving no purpose other than as an asset on paper for Wells Fargo. They want to make it into a community center that would host workshops explaining their cause. OSC also plans to make the area available to other community groups that need space.

Occupiers held a general assembly meeting and voted unanimously to hold the building until they are arrested. There were about 40 outside and 10 inside. The ones inside asked for welding gloves and dispatched a committee to find pallets behind grocery stores to build barricades.

Read the whole story here.

So why are so many people joining the Occupy movement and protesting in Washington? The D.C. chapter has published a declaration to explain:

We are assembled because…

It is absurd that the 1 percent has taken 40 percent of the nation’s wealth through exploiting labor, outsourcing jobs, and manipulating the tax code to their benefit through special capital tax rates and loopholes. The system is rigged in their favor, yet they cry foul when anyone even dares to question their relentless class warfare.

Candidates in our electoral system require huge sums of money to be competitive. These contributions from multi-national corporations and wealthy individuals destroy responsive representative governance. A system of backroom deals, kickbacks, bribes, and dirty politics overrides the will of the people. The rotation of decision makers between the public and private sectors cultivates a network of public officials, lobbyists, and executives whose aligned interests do not serve the American people.

Financial institutions gambled with our savings, homes, and economy. They collapsed the financial system and needed the public to bail them out of their failures yet deny any responsibility and continue to fight oversight. Corporations loot from those whose labor creates society’s prosperity, while the government allows them to privatize profits and socialize risk.

Click here to read the full statement.

The musicians will give a concert in support of the Occupy Wall Street movement at 12 p.m. on Dec. 1 in Zuccotti Park, The Wall Street Journal reported.

Other artists who have performed for OWS include David Crosby and Graham Nash, Pete Seegar and Arlo Guthrie.


@ OWSAtlanta :
Thursday December 1 at 5 pm. #occupyatlanta will #occupythefcc . Read about it here and join us. http://t.co/zDGGy8Q4


@ OccupyWallStNYC :
For those who can’t afford #DinnerWithBarack, food will b served 2nite ( everynight) at #SpokesCouncil, 56 Walker St. Tomorrow @ #LibertySq

Joan Donovan, an organizer with Occupy LA, says the arrestees have yet to be even processed and are still in jail. Some of them, she suspects, have evidence that will help confirm that the police used pepper spray and bean bag bullets on the activists. “We have people that were shot with bean bag guns and pepper spray,” she says, adding that the group is “trying to figure out who it was and how to get pictures of injuries.”

Donovan says they are also trying to figure out where to hold the general assembly meetings. The mayor had promised to leave the west steps open. But they have since been fenced in along with much of city hall. She thinks they will eventually occupy another space — maybe by Saturday if they can get consensus and logistics ironed out.

“We’re sorting out all of out the options. And there are many,” she says. “The city zoning laws say that between 9:30 p.m. and five or six a.m., you’re allowed to sleep in a tent on a sidewalk. Worse comes to worse, we’ll just line the sidewalks.”

– Jason Cherkis

The press release reads as follows:

The National Lawyers Guild calls for the immediate release of all those arrested in the police raid on Occupy LA last night. The police are holding everyone on $5,000 bail for misdemeanor charges of failure to disperse.

California law is clear. Penal Code §853.6 is mandatory in requiring that anyone charged with a misdemeanor shall be released with a written notice to appear.

National Lawyers Guild board member, Carol Sobel, condemned the action of the LAPD. “The Los Angeles Police Department is deliberately refusing to release anyone arrested in the Occupy raids with a notice to appear. The City is holding them in jail on $5,000 bail until they can be arraigned by a judge, which can take up to 48 hours. This punishes people for exercising their First Amendment rights.”

New York City was successfully sued in 2004 when they tried the same tactic against individuals involved in protesting at the Republican National Convention.


@ MattFilipowicz :
#OccupyBoston marches to the Capitol. http://t.co/mjOtVUyb #ows

From HuffPost’s Arin Greenwood:

On a chilly Wednesday afternoon, Jordan Brinkman is lying on top of a sleeping bag and foam mat inside an oddly-shaped, igloo-like clear plexiglass structure in McPherson Square, the park where Occupy DC has been encamped since Oct. 1. A sign hung up in front of the structure — called the “bubble” — says “Occupy DC is transparent and participatory.”

Read the whole story here.


@ MattFilipowicz :
#OccupyBoston march walking amongst cars. Chanting “Whose streets? Our streets!” http://t.co/3RmyHwkv #ows

Occupy Cal protesters, teaming with BAMN, a national pro-affirmative action group, have filed a lawsuit against UC Berkeley Chancellor Robert Birgeneau, UCPD Chief Mitch Celaya, members from both the Oakland Police Department and the Alameda County Sheriff’s Office, as well as 100 unnamed officers.

The lawsuit is in response to the events of a protest Nov. 9, when UC Berkeley campus police were seen jabbing unarmed students with batons. By using such force, the lawsuit contends, they violated demonstrators’ First, Fourth and Fourteenth Amendments.

In a statement from UC Berkeley, the school responded “It is disconcerting that the plaintiffs have filed a lawsuit that is filled with so many inaccuracies. For example, the claim that members of the administration are opposed to the ‘protesters’ defense of affordable, public education’ is completely unfounded.”

The Daily Cal reported Monica Smith, an attorney for BAMN, said plaintiffs will seek compensation for the physical and mental damages incurred by officers, although no specific monetary amount was cited. Smith said the protesters are also demanding Birgeneau’s resignation.

– Tyler Kingkade

Joan Donovan, an Occupy LA organizer, writes HuffPost in an email: “we are going back to City Hall tonight!” We will be updating soon.

From HuffPost’s Ryan Grim:

The Washington arm of the Occupy Wall Street movement plans to target a high-dollar Democratic fundraiser near the group’s McPherson Square encampment Thursday night. The cost of attending the dinner for the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee is a pricey $5,000 to $75,000 a plate.

“This elitist event is indicative of how the Democrats represent a major part of our government’s failure to represent 99% of its citizenry,” reads an Occupy DC action alert.

Read the whole story here.

Bail for the more than 200 Occupy LA protesters arrested last night has been set at $5,000. They were charged with a misdemeanor.

The president of the Society of Professional Journalists, John Ensslin, makes a call for arrests of journalists covering Occupy protests to stop.


Alarming Trend of Journalists’ Arrests at ‘Occupy’ Must Stop

Across the country, there’s been an alarming trend lately of journalists being arrested, detained or restricted from doing their jobs at various “Occupy” demonstrations.

Some were covering the story for mainstream media. Some were freelancers. Others were students.

The arrests occurred in places including Atlanta, New York City, Oakland, Ca.; Rochester, N.Y.; Richmond, Va; Chapel Hill, N.C., Nashville and Milwaukee.

The details and circumstances of the arrests varied widely, but there was one common denominator: These were journalists doing their job covering a news event of public interest. They were practicing journalism, not civil disobedience.

Occupy Washington DC — one of the groups protesting in Washington, D.C., formerly known as Stop the Machine — is planning on having a small group march from the MLK memorial to Atlanta, Ga.

The AP reports:

WASHINGTON — A group of 15 to 25 protesters from an Occupy Washington encampment is planning to march from the Martin Luther King Jr. Memorial on the National Mall to his gravesite in Atlanta.

Kevin Zeese, an organizer of the occupation at Washington’s Freedom Plaza, says the group will begin its march Thursday. Some participants previously walked from the Wall Street occupation in New York.

OfftheBus contributor Linda Fererro, who has been documenting her time with Occupy Los Angeles, reports from the overnight police raid on the encampment.

While hammering out a proposal of how to reach consensus through a quorum on Tuesday evening, November 29, the Los Angeles General Assembly was punctuated by scuffles and fistfights. Each time, the GA took control by using Mic Check to bring people back on point: “We are peaceful, we are peaceful.”

The buzz was that police would raid the encampment that evening, raising the tension level in the park. Choppers swarmed overhead, making it hard to hear, but creating a beautiful, moving mosaic as their searchlights shone through the tree leaves.

An impressive fireworks display was set off at the corner of 1st and Main, as word circulated that police were leaving Dodger Stadium and heading towards the park.

“Damn, who had the balls to do that?” a woman exclaimed to me, her face lit up in a big

grin.

Shortly after midnight, over a thousand police moved in, enough to take your breath away. They formed double lines in the streets surrounding the parks. If this impressive flexing of collective muscle was designed to create trickles of sweat down folks’ backs, it succeeded.

A young man standing next to me pointed out a small police truck that moved in with some cargo.

“Those are stretchers,” he said. “They mean serious business.”

Not wanting to be zip-tied or carried out on a stretcher, I positioned myself on a corner across from the park, next to the media trucks and tables. A policewoman came by and cordoned off the corner with yellow tape. At this point, anyone who was in the streets or park had made their choice and was willing to be arrested.

One wild-haired young man who had earlier started a fistfight at GA, and had since been roaming and raging with irrational rhetoric, was now safe behind the yellow tape. Self- preservation trumped sound and fury.

A policeman spoke to me, “Can I see your media pass?”

With that query, my pass-less presence was no longer welcome, and I exited along with other non-media people gathered on the corner.

The Christmas tree that was erected next to the Sacred Circle will not be decorated this year, but the Grinch can’t control everything. Tweets report that Occupiers are reconvening, as planned, at a church on North Main. A call is out for a rally at 4:00 pm Wednesday at Pershing Square, and GA is planned at City Hall at 7:30.

To share your first-hand reports, photos or videos from Occupy events, email OfftheBus.

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